Legislature(1995 - 1996)

03/06/1996 01:36 PM House FIN

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  CONTRACT LABOR AGREEMENTS & COMPENSATION INCREASES:                          
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley provided members with a spreadsheet compiled                 
  by the  Legislative Finance  Division,  Approximate Cost  of                 
  Bargaining  Unit Contracts  and  Other Non-Covered  Employee                 
  Compensation (Attachment 1).  He reviewed  Attachment 1.  He                 
  explained that the calculations for University of Alaska and                 
  the Alaska Court System were divided between non-covered and                 
  covered  employees.    The  increase  for  Court non-covered                 
  employees is 5.2 percent.                                                    
                                                                               
  MARK BOYER, COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION noted                 
  that                                                                         
  this proposal would treat Court System non-covered employees                 
  differently  than  other  non-covered  employees.   Co-Chair                 
                                                                               
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  Hanley  restated  comments made  by  Arthur H.  Snowden, II,                 
  Administrative Director,  Alaska  Court  System  during  the                 
  3/6/96,  8:00 a.m. meeting.   He noted  that the spreadsheet                 
  shows what has  been requested by  the Alaska Court  System.                 
  Commissioner Boyer suggested that all non-covered  employees                 
  be   treated  similarly.    He  cautioned  against  creating                 
  disparity  among  non-covered  employees.   Co-Chair  Hanley                 
  noted  that the  Administration  recommends  a  1.5  percent                 
  increase  for exempt employees.  To put exempt employees and                 
  legislative  employees  on  par  with  Alaska  Court  System                 
  employees  they  would  have to  receive  an  additional 3.6                 
  percent  increase.    Commissioner   Boyer  noted  that  the                 
  University of Alaska has a different system for compensation                 
  based on performance.                                                        
                                                                               
  BOB  STALNAKER,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF  RETIREMENT   AND                 
  BENEFITS, DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION clarified that health                 
  insurance increases  for SU  and PSEA were  included in  the                 
  upper part of the  spreadsheet.  A separate line  for health                 
  benefits includes costs for GGU and Labor, Trades and Crafts                 
  (LTC).  Co-Chair Hanley noted that these units would go to a                 
  set amount in 1998.                                                          
                                                                               
  Commissioner Boyer observed  that the LTC Health  Trust Fund                 
  is speculative.  Mr.  Stalnaker stressed that the  State has                 
  gone four years without increases for health costs.                          
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Hanley  stated   that  merit  costs  will   remain                 
  regardless  of  contract  approval.   Some  estimated health                 
  benefit increases will also remain.   He clarified that  the                 
  health benefits assumption is based on a 3 percent  increase                 
  for the last  6 months of 1997.   Mr. Stalnaker  stated that                 
  the intention is to convert to a fiscal year basis to adjust                 
  health costs.  The assumption for the  next 2 years would be                 
  6  percent.   Commissioner  Boyer  emphasized that  the line                 
  listing health benefit  costs at $137.9 thousand  dollars is                 
  speculative.  Co-Chair  Hanley agreed  that these costs  are                 
  speculative.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Commissioner Boyer  noted that  $2,148.9 million  dollars is                 
  the entire  amount for  estimated merit  increases based  on                 
  actuals  from  FY  95.    He  stressed that  the  impact  of                 
  contracts is 1.5  percent of  this amount.   He stated  that                 
  merit  costs are  not  driven by  the  contracts.   Co-Chair                 
  Hanley agreed  that the  merit increase line  is not  driven                 
  entirely by the contracts.                                                   
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown asked how merit increases are normally                 
  handled.  She clarified that merit increases are absorbed by                 
  the  agencies  as higher  paid  employees retire.   Co-Chair                 
  Hanley questioned if  retirements of people at  higher steps                 
  actually cover merit increases.  He  noted that there may be                 
                                                                               
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  reallocations  of  spending  as  opposed  to  savings.    He                 
  questioned the value of early retirement legislation.                        
                                                                               
  Representative Brown asked how much of the $12,298.6 million                 
  dollar  subtotal  is  in  the  Governor's  proposed  budget.                 
  Commissioner  Boyer  stated  that  the  Governor's  proposal                 
  includes $8,33.0 million  general fund dollars and  $5,820.0                 
  million other fund dollars. He observed that PSEA and Alaska                 
  Court System costs are not included in this amount.                          
                                                                               
  In response to a question  by Co-Chair Hanley, Mr. Stalnaker                 
  clarified that  SBS  and PES  are  included in  the  numbers                 
  calculated in Attachment  1.  Co-Chair Hanley  observed that                 
  the line for Non-Add SBS Incremental Costs is an estimate of                 
  the dollars in  the above lines  that are attributed to  SBS                 
  costs.                                                                       
                                                                               
  In response to a question  by Representative Therriault, Mr.                 
  Stalnaker stressed that the employment force is dynamic.  He                 
  argued that personnel  costs remain consistent  as employees                 
  leave and  are replaced  by employees  at a  lower range  or                 
  step.   He observed that vacancies  are also a factor.   Co-                 
  Chair Hanley pointed  out that a  person who remains in  the                 
  system  will  get an  average annual  increase  of 1.5  to 2                 
  percent.  Commissioner Boyer provided members with copies of                 
  pay schedules (Attachment 2).  He noted that an employee can                 
  anticipate an accumulative increase of 33 to 38 percent over                 
  an 18 year career.   He pointed out that over  the same time                 
  frame there is a 150 percent increase in the CPI.                            
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley pointed  out that if contracts  are accepted                 
  employees  will  get  an  accumulated  3.4  percent increase                 
  during the  life of  the contract  which will  out pace  the                 
  anticipated  CPI.     Commissioner  Boyer  noted   that  the                 
  Anchorage CPI  grew by 226  percent from 1973  through 1996.                 
  Employee wages in the GGU unit  grew by 182.9 percent during                 
  the  same  time.   Co-Chair  Hanley  pointed  out  that  the                 
  addition of 33 percent for  merit increases would bring them                 
  even with inflation.                                                         
                                                                               
  In  response  to   a  question  by   Representative  Martin,                 
  Commissioner Boyer observed that the contracts would provide                 
  for  increases  of only  half  of the  CPI.   Representative                 
  Martin  suggested that state salaries have  kept up with the                 
  CPI better than private salaries.                                            
                                                                               
  Mr. Stalnaker noted that an  average of 400 employees retire                 
  each year.  The average PERS retiree receives $700.0 dollars                 
  a  month.    An  average  of  2,000  employees  leave  state                 
  employment each year.                                                        
                                                                               
  In response to a question  by Representative Therriault, Mr.                 
                                                                               
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  Stalnaker  noted that a member  of the retirement system can                 
  pull out their contributions regardless  of whether they are                 
  vested.  The employer contribution cannot be withdrawn.                      
                                                                               
  Representative Therriault maintained that  there is more job                 
  security in  the state  system.   Mr. Stalnaker  agreed that                 
  private  sector  employees are  nervous.   He  asserted that                 
  public  sector   employees  are  also  nervous  about  their                 
  employment.  He observed that the average age of an employee                 
  in TRS is increasing.   He suggested that an  older employee                 
  is less  likely to prematurely  leave their employment.   He                 
  stressed  that the aging  of the  baby boomer  generation is                 
  effecting all retirement systems.  Representative Therriault                 
  restated  that  employees want  job security.   Commissioner                 
  Boyer agreed that  employees have made concessions  in order                 
  to protect employment.                                                       
                                                                               
  Mr.  Stalnaker gave a  brief history of the  SBS system.  He                 
  noted  that  the  State  initiated  withdrawal  from  Social                 
  Security in  1978.    He noted  that  SBS was  part  of  the                 
  agreement  reached  in order  to  achieve  employee support.                 
  After the state  of California  applied for withdrawal  from                 
  Social Security  the federal government  shut the door.   He                 
  observed that  public sector  employers could  withdraw from                 
  Social Security until after  the withdrawal of the  state of                 
  Alaska.    He  observed  that  SBS  was  not  set  up  as  a                 
  requirement of the federal government.  It was the result of                 
  collective  bargaining  to allow  benefit  options  equal to                 
  Social Security.  The  benefit to the employer was  that the                 
  contribution rate would be fixed.  Social Security costs had                 
  increased to 6.13 percent when the State pulled out.  Social                 
  Security has  since increased to 7.6 percent.  He maintained                 
  that the  State is saving money  by virtue of being  in SBS.                 
  He  observed   that  public   sector   employees  now   must                 
  participate   in   Social  Security   unless  there   is  an                 
  alternative  plan that is at least equal to Social Security.                 
  A defined contribution plan must have contributions combined                 
  of  at  least 7.6  percent.    He observed  that  PERS would                 
  satisfy this  requirement.   He  concluded that  SBS is  not                 
  needed to satisfy federal requirements.  He noted that there                 
  has been enlarged growth in PERS.                                            
                                                                               
  Mr. Stalnaker  observed that  the State Constitution  states                 
  that  retirement  benefits  should  not  be   diminished  or                 
  impaired.  He  observed that  the opinion of  the Office  of                 
  Attorney General is  that contributions could be  stopped in                 
  SBS because  the constitutional protection does  not protect                 
  future contributions  of a  defined contribution  plan.   He                 
  stressed that any change  to the SBS system would  result in                 
  lawsuits.   He  noted  that  statutes  state  that  SBS  was                 
  designed  to replace  Social Security.   It  also states  in                 
  statute that contributions can be reduced  or stopped if the                 
                                                                               
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  employer goes back into Social Security.                                     
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley noted  that benefits for new  employees have                 
  been reduced in PERS.                                                        
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 96-64, Side 2)                                             
                                                                               
  Representative Grussendorf observed that  there is a  higher                 
  percentage of Alaska  Court System employees at  lower level                 
  ranges.   Co-Chair Hanley  observed that  judges are at  the                 
  upper end of the salary scale and would receive the same pay                 
  increase as clerical staff.                                                  
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley observed  that salaries of employees  at the                 
  lower end receive a lower percentage of total increases over                 
  time.  He  asked the  justification for  variations in  step                 
  increases at different ranges.   Discussion ensued regarding                 
  the variation in range and step percentages.                                 
                                                                               
  BEVERLY REAUME, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF PERSONNEL,  DEPARTMENT                 
  OF ADMINISTRATION noted that in the late  70's the statutory                 
  schedule  tracked with  general government.    She explained                 
  that variations occurred over a number of negotiations which                 
  occurred over a number of years.                                             
                                                                               
  BRUCE  CUMMINGS,   DIVISION  OF  PERSONNEL,   ALASKA  MARINE                 
  HIGHWAY, DEPARTMENT OF  TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES                 
  observed  that  prior to  collective  bargaining  the salary                 
  schedule  in  AS  39.27  was  fully  integrated  with  fixed                 
  percentages between every step.  Every step was 3.75 percent                 
  higher than the  preceding step.   He noted that  percentage                 
  increases  were applied  across  the board  with  collective                 
  bargaining.   At times uneven percentages  were distributed.                 
  He noted that over a period of years the integrated schedule                 
  of  3.75 percent  has  been changed.   Higher  salary ranges                 
  receive  a   higher  percentage  due  to  implementation  of                 
  increases based on a higher salary.                                          
                                                                               
  Representative Brown  asked the rationale  for not including                 
  all employees under  the merit system.   Mr. Cummings  noted                 
  three classifications of employees; fully exempt  employees,                 
  partially exempt  employees and fully  classified employees.                 
  A  five  step schedule  was set  at  statehood based  on the                 
  premise  that an employee could work  five years before they                 
  would have maximized their learning curve.   In the 70's the                 
  Legislature added four additional longevity steps.                           
                                                                               
  In   response  to   a  question  by   Representative  Brown,                 
  Commissioner   Boyer   clarified  that   the   three  marine                 
  bargaining units and the  Labor, Trades and Crafts unit  are                 
  not included under the merit and longevity system.                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  In  response   to  a   question  by  Representative   Brown,                 
  Commissioner Boyer noted the bargaining unit that applies to                 
  each salary schedule.  He observed that the statutory salary                 
  schedule is in current statute.  The other schedules reflect                 
  current contracts.  Salary schedules  have not been adjusted                 
  in the negotiated contracts.                                                 
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley asked for more information regarding vesting                 
  in  the  state retirement  system.    There is  a  five year                 
  vesting period for PERS.                                                     

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